国防部美国能源部
国防部助理部长办公室（公共事务）
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主讲人：美国国防部长拉姆斯菲尔德
周四，2004年8月26日，

美国国防部长拉姆斯菲尔德新闻发布会在亚利桑那州凤凰城

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SEC。RUMSFELD: Well, it�s such a complicated subject. Today we collect so much information and only a relatively small portion is actually analyzed and communicated. But the real tension that exists is we have these stovepipes where only certain people know this and certain people know that. And people over here need to know it and don�t know it. And so when we say we need to break down those stovepipes, it means that we�ve got to find a way to get the intelligence information that can save lives and can enable us to do our job much better, from a military standpoint and from a policy standpoint, we�ve got to find a way to break those down. Now, why are there stovepipes? Because we�ve been operating, very rationally, on a need-to-know basis. To the extent you have a stovepipe, it�s because you value that information and do not want it known that you know it and therefore you limit the people who have access to it to the people who, quote, �need to know.� That means that the people over here who you don�t think need to know it, don�t know it. And in fact, there are a lot more people that need to know it. So you run the risk of having it compromised. It�s very difficult. I mean, you all know this.我国已经忘记了如何保守秘密。We have such a hemorrhaging of information that�s classified. Every day in Washington, D.C., and around the world.How do you deal with that when people�s lives are at stake?

It was in World War II, you probably don�t remember it, but I mean, there would be signs everywhere, �Loose lips sink ships.� And so how do we do that?Now it may very well be that a lot of information is classified that shouldn�t be, or it�s classified for a period longer than it should be. And maybe we�ve got to find a better way to manage that as well.But the task of � we have to take the risk of breaking down those stovepipes and seeing that the people who need to know that information have an ability to access it and to be able to use it. And in today�s world in the 21st century, that doesn�t mean, you know, at a leisurely pace. It means we need to have information when we need to have it and not later when it�s no longer helpful. Yes.

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