国会记录:2000年9月14日(参议院)
页面S8567-S8569博士。温豪·幽灵先生。主席先生，我向昨天被联邦法官昨天被释放的非凡案件向昨天释放的非凡案件进行了认可，称李博士因官员在官员中犯下的重大错误而欠道歉。司法部和能源部。这件事是由我主席的司法机构小组委员会监督调查的主题。我们的询问于去年10月开始于12月初于12月初结束，以便于联邦调查局主任要求，这不会干扰李博士的待检方。昨天昨天曾经是帕克法官帕克的戏剧性评论，有许多问题来自于自局局局局长的戏剧性，责任在司法和能源方面的顶级官员的门口奠定了责任。需要探索的问题是：那里有哪些证据或哪些因素导致李李议员的拘留和孤独监禁约9个月？司法部和能源部通过调查做了什么？什么是关键联邦调查局见证的具体情况是从早些时候的听证会改变了他的证词，他说李博士是欺骗性的，以后听到他遗漏的那种情况非常重要，这导致了温浩·李某的拘留？ Was there any racial profiling in this case? How did the Department of Justice focus on Dr. Lee? Those are among the many questions to be answered in an oversight hearing which our subcommittee is attempting to schedule now for the week of September 25. The inquiries which we have already made have suggested that there was significant reason for the FBI to conduct the investigation. Dr. Wen Ho Lee is entitled to the presumption of innocence like every American. And on this date of the report, he is presumed innocent, and he is, in fact, innocent. But on this date of the record, the Department of Justice has convicted itself of absolute incompetence. Let me be very specific about why. Director Louis Freeh sent his top deputy, John Lewis, to talk to Attorney General Janet Reno in August of 1997 to request a warrant for Dr. Lee under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. There was a statement of probable cause which was very substantial which justified the issuance of that warrant to gather further evidence. Attorney General Reno referred that matter to a man named Daniel Seikaly in her department, a person who had never handled a warrant under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. The wrong standard was applied, and the FBI was turned down notwithstanding the top deputy, John Lewis, having been sent there by Director Freeh. Then, inexplicably, for the next 16 months, the FBI did not conduct any investigations. Some memoranda were transmitted between Washington, DC, and Albuquerque, NM, but the case lay dormant. It is really hard to understand why the case would lie dormant when the FBI had been so arduous in asking for the warrant under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. But then, in late December of 1998, it was known that the Cox committee was about to publish its report and was said to be highly critical of the way the Department of Justice and the Department of Energy handled the Wen Ho Lee case. Then the Department of Energy initiated a polygraph of Dr. Lee on December 23, 1998, conducted by an outside agency--not by the FBI but by Wackenhut. The Wackenhut contractors told the FBI that Dr. Lee passed the polygraph but did not give the FBI agents the polygraph charts or the videotape of the interview. On January 17 of 1999, the FBI conducted an interview with Dr. Lee to close out the case. But then, on January 22, 5 days later, the FBI finally received the complete record of the December 23 polygraph and began to question the Wackenhut interpretation of the results. Without going into more of the details in the limited time I have at the moment--there will be more time to amplify this statement later in the subcommittee hearings--Dr. Lee was not terminated until March 8. The search warrant was not issued until April 9 in the context of substantial evidence of deletions and downloading. There are very significant questions for the Department of Justice to answer as to why the warrant was not issued under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, why the investigation was not made by the FBI from August of 1997 to December of 1998, why Dr. Lee was kept on the job in the face of downloading very substantial classified matters. The issues about his retention require very serious oversight. There are all the appearances that the FBI's failure to handle the matter properly, the Department of Justice's failure to handle the matter properly, through the disclosure by the Cox committee in January of 1999, and the ultimate firing, the ultimate search warrant, suggest that the Department of Justice really threw the book at Dr. Lee to make up for their own failings. But there needs to be a determination on oversight as to the justification for keeping Dr. Lee in solitary confinement. When the judge finally suggested that he was going to release Dr. Lee to house arrest, the Federal Government put out an objection to his having any contact with his wife, which was really extraordinary. Then suddenly, on a plea agreement, on one of 59 counts under the起诉书根据美国司法部(Department of Justice)的说法，在辩诉交易中释放李博士是可以的。没有罚款，也没有入狱，只有一份简报。有一个真正的问题是，这有多大意义，因为这些材料通常是由李博士的律师在进入辩诉交易之前提供的投标材料。这些是我们的司法小组委员会将要调查的一些问题金博宝正规网址，包括对司法部和能源部的监督。当联邦法官说美国欠李医生一个道歉时，细节还有待确定。当联邦调查局声称李博士对美国的安全构成威胁，他下载的信息可能导致我们在世界各地的军事力量失败时，这些断言需要作为监督问题进行调查。司法部是如何从这些非常严重的指控转变为一份声明的，实际上，让这件事过去，没有罚款，没有监禁，只有59项指控中的一项缓刑。处理这些间谍问题是很重要的。小组委员会即将完成一份关于彼得·李博士的报告，他承认向中华人民共和国提供了关于核秘密和潜艇探测的信息。这些事情需要国会的监督。 Our Judiciary subcommittee will undertake just that. I yield the floor. Mr. GRAMM. Mr. President, like most people this morning, I read the headline "Physicist Lee Freed With Apology.'' I want to comment on this. [[Page S8568]] I want to be careful about what I say because I am angered and embarrassed about what has happened to one of our fellow Americans. For the last few months I have been troubled by the case of Wen Ho Lee. I have been troubled because I have had the deep suspicion that Dr. Lee was a victim of scapegoatism by the Justice Department and by the Energy Department. But I tried to follow the old adage we all learn from our mamas--that when you do not have the facts, wait until you get the facts before you have something to say. Today we have the facts. The facts are that the Federal judge in this case said--talking about Janet Reno, the Attorney General of the United States of America, and Bill Richardson, the Secretary of Energy--and I quote the Federal judge: They did not embarrass me alone. They have embarrassed our entire nation and each of us who is a citizen of it. Let me say they certainly embarrassed me. It seems to me that what happened was we had a terrible breach of security. Our Energy Department was asleep at the switch when the nuclear secrets of this country were stolen. That was raised to a level of public awareness. Rather than going out and finding the person who was guilty of stealing these secrets, it now appears that what the Justice Department did, to its great shame and our embarrassment, is engage in racial profiling to identify an Asian American of Chinese ancestry, Dr. Lee, and to use him as a scapegoat for the failure of this administration to protect American national security. This individual citizen ended up month after month in solitary confinement, having been charged in59项指控然后，当很明显没有案例时，他们就可以讨价还价，以释放他的小罪行。我才与销售美国对中国人的核秘密相比，或向他们提供这样的信息。李博士将安全数据转移到非洲的来源，约翰·德维特的费用政府在本行政当局的高度较高，从未被起诉。为了获得承认这一指控的罪名，这位男人被否认他的自由，谁在获得他的生命中毁灭的人，现在被联邦法官带来了。我想这么说：首先，我不明白一个机构，他们站起来，诅咒种族分析，但当你诉诸他们的政治议程时，我不明白当你谈论一个男人时自由，当你在谈论一个男人的生活时。我认为，如果我们的律师·尼文·里诺有任何荣誉和任何耻辱，我认为如果比尔理查森有任何荣誉和任何羞耻，他们会因这次愤怒而辞职对美国人。这个想法tha这个男人在一个月后的单独约束月，被视为一个公共敌人，并诋毁，在我看来，至少是基于我们所知道的一切 - 而且似乎如果司法部有任何事实，他们会提出他们对这个法院和这位法官 - 因为他的比赛。我认为这是一个愤怒。而且我认为道歉是美国总统所在地。 I think this is a terrible wrong and an outrage. I have for months been suspicious that this was happening, but I didn't want to say anything until we had the facts. I hope my language hasn't offended anybody. But I just do not understand people who, to get political cover for their own failings, don't seem to care that we are talking about the life of a real person. Our system is not based on my rights, or Bill Clinton's rights, it is based on the rights of each individual citizen. The idea that this man has had his good name and his family so attacked and has been in solitary confinement when the only thing the Justice Department ended up getting him to plea bargain on was that he took material out of a secure setting to a nonsecure setting when another official of this Government, by his own admission, did exactly the same thing and was never prosecuted--this is a terrible outrage. I just didn't feel comfortable not saying something about it. I just wanted to go on Record as saying that there is something very wrong in America. This is not the America I grew up in when this kind of thing happens. Somebody in the Senate needed to say something about it. I decided that was me. I yield the floor. The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Senator from New York. Mr. MOYNIHAN. Mr. President, could I respond in the most emphatically sympathetic and supportive way to the statement of the Senator from Texas. In 1993, this Congress passed legislation to create the保护和降低政府保密的委员会在美国。我们有一个罚款。参议员赫尔姆斯和我代表参议院，在房子里，拉里Combest和Lee Hamilton，以及CIA的John Dech。委员会提出了一致的发现。我们开始与主张 - 我可以对一个学术说;他将认识到它 - 最大韦伯提出，保密是对议会的官僚主义的自然武器，并反对政治制度的其他机构。我们找到了最特别的东西。我后来写了这篇文章。1946年12月，Arlington Hall Girl School的一家出色的Crypto分析师，与五角大楼不远，并破坏了苏联KGB代码的第一个。这些是一次性垫。 You "can't break them'' but they got a little careless, used once or twice. There were the names of all the physicists at Los Alamos, the principal ones. A measure of the extent of the KGB operation in this country? As our crypto analyst worked along, an Army corporal cipher clerk handing him pencils, coffee, whatever, an Army corporal cipher clerk, a KGB spy. In very short order, the KGB knew we were breaking their code. Then, of course, Kim Philby was at the British Embassy and we shared some of these findings with the British--we probably still do. Then he defected. In no time at all, they knew that we knew, and we knew that they knew that we knew. People might be interested to learn, who was the one person in the U.S. Government who did not know? The President of the United States. On whose orders was this the case? Omar Bradley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. This is Army property. I guess he had a sense that if he said, "Give everything to the White House,'' it gets out. President Truman never knew any of these things. With the exceptions of the Rosenbergs, none of these persons were ever prosecuted. One of them, the most important, Hall, teaches physics at Cambridge University in England, and comes back and forth to this country. He had been part of that tremendous effort. He was from an immigrant family living in Manhattan, went to Queens College. They spotted him at Queens College, and they sent him up to Harvard. Then he was sent to Los Alamos. He was never prosecuted because to prosecute, it must be stated where we got the information and so forth. Secrecy can be so destructive to the flow of information that is needed. It will continue long after there is any conceivable need for secrecy. We estimated recently that the classified documents we have in place now would be 441 times stacked up the height of the Washington Monument. A trivial example, but a characteristic example, President Ford at one point had in mind that I might be Librarian of Congress. I was in India, leaving the post as Ambassador and had a cable exchange with the head of personnel in the White House. I was going back through Peking, staying with the Bushes, stopped at Pearl Harbor, and then would be here. An historian writing about the Library of Congress--an interesting post; there have only been seven or eight in our history-- picked this up and went to the Ford Library. Yes, there is information; but no, she couldn't see it, it was classified. It took months to get the cable to Washington declassified. One could argue that there was good reason to keep that classified for seven days, but 30 years later? That is a pattern. It is a pattern that the people who deal with these things as classified don't know the material, the subject matter; they don't know the physics taught to first-year graduate students [[Page S8569]] at MIT, but information is still classified "top secret, no form,'' in some bureaucracy in Washington. The absolute standard operating procedure is to classify something "Top secret'' and then send it to the President in the hopes that it will get on his desk if it looks really enormous. There are endless examples of clippings from Newsweek magazine stamped "Confidential.'' Just a bureaucratic mode. The idea that Dr. Lee was imprisoned is hard to understand. Solitary confinement, worse. But leg irons? There were leg irons so one could not run off to Mexico. Obviously, much needs to be explained. I say also for Dr. Deutch, this is a man of utmost patriotism. What was his offense? I don't think it is a crime at all. He took work home with him. After dinner he would sit down and work. There is a penalty for that, and he accepted it. He has had all his clearances removed, which is a heavy price for a scientist, but he has accepted that. The idea that he has done anything wrong beyond that is to say to people: Don't go near the clandestine services of the United States, don't go near the atomic laboratories. I have no standing as a scientist, but I was a member of the President's Science Advisory Committee, and I am a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and having been a member of the board and vice president at one point, I can say I know a fair number of scientists. Their postdoctorate students don't want anything to do with the Federal laboratories. If you want to do something to the national security of the United States, keep the best minds out of the weapons labs. That will do it faster than any transfer of information, which has a half-life of nine months before others catch up or they think it up on their own. I can speak to this. For example, with atomic secrets, we have a wonderful person, a great man, Hans Bethe, who was standing alongside Oppenheimer at Los Alamos. A man of luminous intelligence. There is nothing that he is more skeptical about than the idea of keeping physical science secret. He tells the story that after the atomic bomb was detonated, he and the other physicists involved said: All right, but no hydrogen bomb. No, that is too much. And there was the further advantage: And thank God, nobody knew how. It was not possible to make one. It can't be done. The physics just won't work. And then he said: Stanislaw Ulam and Edward Teller figured out how it could be done. And we said: Oh, Lord, if Ulam can think of it, Sakharov will think of it. So we had better go through with it. He and Oppenheimer said: You have to go through to a hydrogen bomb because science is not in a box that you can put in a closet. I also want to say on this floor that I have not known a more patriotic man than John Deutch; absolutely committed to this country's security. Provost at MIT, a physical chemist, a man of great science, who made the error of working after supper at home. Nothing was ever transferred to anybody. He was working. What do I do in the morning? That kind of thing. And the very idea we would try to punish him for that is to put, I say, in jeopardy the whole reputation of American classified science and clandestine service. We do that at a great cost, which you will not recognize for half a century, perhaps. But it will come. I thank the Senator from Texas for what he has said. I appreciate his indulgence in what I have joined him saying. I see my colleague seeks recognition. I yield the floor. ____________________